Bonjour... Mon sujet d'hier n'ayant rencontré aucun succès parmi les forumers , je le poste à nouveau, quoiqu'en le formulant de façon plus précise. Je voudrais savoir si le modèle he-500 d'hifiman pouvait être apparié à l'hm-801, pour une écoute du coup plus vraiment nomade, mais bon, de toute façon l'hm-801 est plus bédouin que nomade, alors... Est-ce que qqn a déjà tenté la chose ? bigtonio, david-sylvian38 (entre autres spécialistes ès-hifiman)... qu'en pensez-vous ?
Merci d'avance pour vos avis...
hm-801 et he-500 : mariage de raison ?
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Hélàs !
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Si personne ne réponds, tu as 3 possibilités : soit ils sont trop flemmards (la 2ème maladie la plus courante sur TN après l'achat compulsif), soit que personne n'a essayé, soit ils n'ont pas vu le topic (ça arrive).
Je t'invite à MP les membres sus-cités si ceux-ci ne se présentent pas d'eux même, ils mordent pas
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Je ne pense pas que le hm-801 sois assez puissant pour driver un he-500 qui est un casque ortho assez capricieux
Casque: Stax SR-009, Oppo PM3, Sennheiser M2 aebt Stax Sr-007mkII (omega II) Sennheiser HE 60 (baby orpheus)
Ampli: Stax SRM-727II, Stax SRA-12S
Source: DAC Buffalo IIIse (DIY)
Nomade: JH 16 pro / Oppo PM3
Ampli: Stax SRM-727II, Stax SRA-12S
Source: DAC Buffalo IIIse (DIY)
Nomade: JH 16 pro / Oppo PM3
- dobiwan
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Je pense que si tu veux du "100% Hifiman" c'est plutôt une paire d'intras que tu peux coupler à ton HM-801, Genre des RE-252...
MAIS je viens de voir un truc bizarre sur le site de head direct : http://www.head-direct.com/Products/?act=detail&id=107
MAIS je viens de voir un truc bizarre sur le site de head direct : http://www.head-direct.com/Products/?act=detail&id=107
Visiblement la carte Balanced Card Amplifier Module for HM-801 est destinée à relier des casques de la série HE au hm-801...Balanced Card Amplifier Module for HM-801
Overview
By popular request, HiFiMAN has developed a balanced amp module specifically for its highly-acclaimed HM-801. It features an independent TRRS balanced 3.5mm output. The 3.5mm mini jack on HM-801 body is still full functional and provide imbalanced output. A TRRS cable is supplied for our HE series headphones as an accessory. Coming soon: HiFiMAN will sell spare TRRS connectors and TRRS cables for UE type headphones.
Balanced amp card finally finished. It has an independent TRRS balanced 3.5mm output. The 3.5mm mini jack on HM-801 body is still full functional and provide imbalanced output. We provide a TRRS cable for our HE series headphones as an accessory. We will sell spare TRRS connector and TRRS cable for UE type headphones in the near future.
Specifications
Accessory:
TRRS cable for HE series headphones (HE-300, HE-4, HE-5, HE-5LE, HE-500, and HE-6)
Spec
Max Output: 440 mw
THD:
0.05% at 10K Hz
0.05% at 1K Hz
0.08% at 100 Hz
S/N: 103 Db
Channel Separation: 77 Db
Utilisé actuellement
Casques: AKG K340 Vic&Dobi Mod Bass-Mid, AKG K7XX, Grado Rs1 Classic w/ Button, Grado The Hemp
Intras: Hifiman RE0
Enceintes: Swan M200 MkIII
Baladeur: Cowon iAudio U5, Cube C60
Install Sédentaire : Audio-GD DAC 19-DSP -> Garage1217 Project Ember
Ancien matos
Casques: AKG K340 KT88 Mod Bass-Mid & Bass-Heavy, German MAESTRO GMP 400, Sony MDR-SA5000, Grado HF-1, AiAiAi TMA-1, Fostex T50 RP
Intras/Ecouteurs: SoundMagic PL30, Ultimate Ears MetroFi 220, Sleek Audio SA1, Sony MDR-Ne2
Enceintes: Logitech Z-2300
Nomade: Cube C30, Cowon D2+, Meizu M6
Sédentaire: DAC Philips IS 5021, Audio-GD C-2, Yulong DAH-1 Mk II, Matrix Mini-I, Garage1217 Project Sunrise, Starlight
Casques: AKG K340 Vic&Dobi Mod Bass-Mid, AKG K7XX, Grado Rs1 Classic w/ Button, Grado The Hemp
Intras: Hifiman RE0
Enceintes: Swan M200 MkIII
Baladeur: Cowon iAudio U5, Cube C60
Install Sédentaire : Audio-GD DAC 19-DSP -> Garage1217 Project Ember
Ancien matos
Casques: AKG K340 KT88 Mod Bass-Mid & Bass-Heavy, German MAESTRO GMP 400, Sony MDR-SA5000, Grado HF-1, AiAiAi TMA-1, Fostex T50 RP
Intras/Ecouteurs: SoundMagic PL30, Ultimate Ears MetroFi 220, Sleek Audio SA1, Sony MDR-Ne2
Enceintes: Logitech Z-2300
Nomade: Cube C30, Cowon D2+, Meizu M6
Sédentaire: DAC Philips IS 5021, Audio-GD C-2, Yulong DAH-1 Mk II, Matrix Mini-I, Garage1217 Project Sunrise, Starlight
Merci Wardormeur, Charlo89 & Dobiwan pour vos réponses, et sorry pour le délai... Dobiwan, ce lien sur Head-fi, qui confirme tes dires : http://www.head-fi.org/t/564742/hm-801- ... ier-module. En effet Hifiman commercialise un module d'amplification permettant d'associer au hm-801 les casques de la gamme He-.... Warp08 fait un compte-rendu détaillé de son match entre l'hm-801 équipé du module d'amplification standard dans sa dernière version v.2.0 et l'hm-801 équipé de la carte balanced amplifier module, test effectué notamment avec l'HE-500 (customisé, il est vrai). Comparaison dont il ressort que la carte bam apporte un plus indéniable :
1. Imaging. The difference is quite pronounced, especially with the HE-500Rs. The spatial imaging is significantly extended along both the x and y axis; the soundstage becomes both wider and deeper.
2. Power. While I do not recall the exact specs between the ST and the balanced module, the balanced module makes driving the HE-500Rs effortless. By that I mean it does so with a punch. Attacks are much sharper and even though the HE-500s are not the fastest cans on the block, the overall dynamics are much more satisfying and more consistent with similar performance characteristics those of balanced desktop amplifier/source combos.
3. Instrument separation. The synergy between the neutrality of the HM-801 digital source coupled with the balanced amp module compliments the HE-500Rs midrange emphasis by slightly flattening the performance curve and infusing some extra detail between most instruments. This is evident in both reference recordings, but quite frequently surface during the Natalie Merchant “Tigerlily” tracks with acoustic guitar compliments. They are projected with a definite air around them, clearly distinguishable from the other accompaniments as opposed to somewhat fused in together.
4. Bass and treble extensions. The improvement in these aspect of sonic excellence is relatively minor, but I believe it is still there and worth mentioning. In essence, the balanced amplifier is able to deliver cleaner, crisper treble and tighter bass with a slightly more pronounced, yet smoother texture without sacrificing midrange performance; a key selling point of the HE-500s.
Sorry, j'ai copié-collé sans traduire (de toute façon j'aurais pas su faire !). Néanmoins les avantages de la carte bam apparaissent de façon assez évidente.
Option intéressante donc, que cette carte bam...
1. Imaging. The difference is quite pronounced, especially with the HE-500Rs. The spatial imaging is significantly extended along both the x and y axis; the soundstage becomes both wider and deeper.
2. Power. While I do not recall the exact specs between the ST and the balanced module, the balanced module makes driving the HE-500Rs effortless. By that I mean it does so with a punch. Attacks are much sharper and even though the HE-500s are not the fastest cans on the block, the overall dynamics are much more satisfying and more consistent with similar performance characteristics those of balanced desktop amplifier/source combos.
3. Instrument separation. The synergy between the neutrality of the HM-801 digital source coupled with the balanced amp module compliments the HE-500Rs midrange emphasis by slightly flattening the performance curve and infusing some extra detail between most instruments. This is evident in both reference recordings, but quite frequently surface during the Natalie Merchant “Tigerlily” tracks with acoustic guitar compliments. They are projected with a definite air around them, clearly distinguishable from the other accompaniments as opposed to somewhat fused in together.
4. Bass and treble extensions. The improvement in these aspect of sonic excellence is relatively minor, but I believe it is still there and worth mentioning. In essence, the balanced amplifier is able to deliver cleaner, crisper treble and tighter bass with a slightly more pronounced, yet smoother texture without sacrificing midrange performance; a key selling point of the HE-500s.
Sorry, j'ai copié-collé sans traduire (de toute façon j'aurais pas su faire !). Néanmoins les avantages de la carte bam apparaissent de façon assez évidente.
Option intéressante donc, que cette carte bam...