Schiit Ragnarok
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corderaide
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Schiit Ragnarok
Le topic est tout vert, sur le nouveau flagship de chez Schiit, ampli des intras aux enceintes selon la marque... le Ragnarok (parce que les grands noms nordiques ça en jette !).
Il est infiniment plus rapide d'énoncer une connerie que de la réfuter.
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Et il est passé ou le premier post qui présente le bazar, les références, images, lien sur le wiki, toussa ? 
Bon sérieusement, j'avais une vrai question: est-ce que le schiit ragnarok peut piloter/driver des enceintes difficiles à volume bas/moyen ?
J'ai en tête des Kef R500 - pour lesquels j'ai des envies de craquage... sensibilité moyenne, 8 ohms qui descendent à 3.2, et des confirmations de mon revendeur hifi local comme quoi faut pas lui coller n'importe quoi derrière...
Quelqu'un a une idée de la capacité en courant de la bestiole ?
Mais ça, c'était avant. Le Ragnarok ne tronera jamais dans mon salon, Schiit n'ayant pas compris qu'une télécommande ne devait pas être une option pour un ampli intégré....
Bon sérieusement, j'avais une vrai question: est-ce que le schiit ragnarok peut piloter/driver des enceintes difficiles à volume bas/moyen ?
J'ai en tête des Kef R500 - pour lesquels j'ai des envies de craquage... sensibilité moyenne, 8 ohms qui descendent à 3.2, et des confirmations de mon revendeur hifi local comme quoi faut pas lui coller n'importe quoi derrière...
Quelqu'un a une idée de la capacité en courant de la bestiole ?
Mais ça, c'était avant. Le Ragnarok ne tronera jamais dans mon salon, Schiit n'ayant pas compris qu'une télécommande ne devait pas être une option pour un ampli intégré....
DAC / Amp: 2* Pioneer U-05-S \\ DAC: Audiolab M-Dac; Asus Essence STX [/strike] \\ Ampli: Violectric HPA-V200, OPC The Wire (DIY) \\ Casque: Fostex TH-900 & TH-X00, Sony wh-1000xm3, ATH-W1000X, ATH-A900, AKG K272HD, QPad qh-1339 \\ Intras: Sony XBA-H3 VSonic GR07 mk1; Shure SE110 \\ nomade: LG G5 + Module B&O Hifi Plus \\ Salon: HTPC / Nvidia Shield / Marantz CD6002 / AT-LP1240 => Rotel RA-1570=> Dynaudio Excite X34
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Plüthaar.GourouLubrik a écrit :Et il est passé ou le premier post qui présente le bazar, les références, images, lien sur le wiki, toussa ?
Mais ça viendra
(sauf si tu te sens de faire la fiche tout de suite)
Au pire, une telco sur le DAC ça suffirait pas ?
Il est infiniment plus rapide d'énoncer une connerie que de la réfuter.
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Je need du family proof, alors non... c'est relou...
J'ai des envies de Rotel RA-1570... un ampli intégré qui m'a l'air d'envoyer du bois, et qui rempli presque tout mes critères (telco, 2 optiques, 2 coax, usb, XLR, 2x120w / 8 ohms, sortie casque, entrée phono MM, possibilité d'utilisé en bloc de puissance, trigger, et même un pré-out en plus en plus si on veut passer ses enceintes en bi-amp avec un autre bloc de puissance... Y'a même un port serie si j'ai envie de le programmer avec le cubietruck... et il pour ne rien gâcher est beau !
Alors il fait ptet pas bien les casques, pour ce qui du boulot d'un ampli intégré family proof, il le fera mieux
Sur ce, revenons au Ragnarok :D
J'ai des envies de Rotel RA-1570... un ampli intégré qui m'a l'air d'envoyer du bois, et qui rempli presque tout mes critères (telco, 2 optiques, 2 coax, usb, XLR, 2x120w / 8 ohms, sortie casque, entrée phono MM, possibilité d'utilisé en bloc de puissance, trigger, et même un pré-out en plus en plus si on veut passer ses enceintes en bi-amp avec un autre bloc de puissance... Y'a même un port serie si j'ai envie de le programmer avec le cubietruck... et il pour ne rien gâcher est beau !
Alors il fait ptet pas bien les casques, pour ce qui du boulot d'un ampli intégré family proof, il le fera mieux
Sur ce, revenons au Ragnarok :D
DAC / Amp: 2* Pioneer U-05-S \\ DAC: Audiolab M-Dac; Asus Essence STX [/strike] \\ Ampli: Violectric HPA-V200, OPC The Wire (DIY) \\ Casque: Fostex TH-900 & TH-X00, Sony wh-1000xm3, ATH-W1000X, ATH-A900, AKG K272HD, QPad qh-1339 \\ Intras: Sony XBA-H3 VSonic GR07 mk1; Shure SE110 \\ nomade: LG G5 + Module B&O Hifi Plus \\ Salon: HTPC / Nvidia Shield / Marantz CD6002 / AT-LP1240 => Rotel RA-1570=> Dynaudio Excite X34
Il semble avoir calmé Nico comme il faut pour son TH900 et son LCD2!
Mon passé, mon présent, mon futur ?
J'ai pas vu de retour encore sur cet ampli, par contre le nouveau DAC de la marque l'Yggdrasil fait déjà polémique 
http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,2047.110.html
un petit extrait :
The Yggy does that. It is the most REAL source I have ever heard. We are talking about v0.99 (essentially what the production model will be) which I was finally able to preview. The iteration Ravi heard was v0.96. This final version is a huge, HUGE step up - especially in terms of the intangibles.
Q: I'm worried about the Yggdrasil being too analytical because you guys said it was so resolving down to the the original source tapes. I'm afraid of resolution.
A: Fuck you. Do you think of resolution or analytical when you listen to the REAL thing?
Q: How's the tone? I like a warm sound and I don't like nasty treble.
A: Fuck you. Does the word REAL mean anything to you? REAL means the complete gamut of every kind of sound.
Q: I have sucky recordings. Will the Yggdrasil make things sounds worse?
A: Absolutely not. The Yggy will scrape whatever is left of the soul of the recording and rendering it in the most REAL way possible. In fact, bad recordings sound great, because you get a new take on them.
Q: How does it compare to X or Y DAC?
A: Do X or Y DAC fake you out into thinking the recording is REAL?
Q: What do you mean by it's real?
A: I'm listening to Taylor Swift's second record right now from the Yggdrasil. Ho Lee Fuk. Ho Lee Fuk. I keep saying to myself. I cannot believe it. I am at a concert. This is real. She and her band are in my living room. Yeah, Ho Lee Fuk... Ho Lee Fuk. I am going to explode.
Q: I don't believe you.
A: I don't give a shit. Go waste your money on an MSB DAC if you prefer American or Total DAC if you prefer European.
Q: How does this compare to the Audio-GD Model X or Y?
A: Fuck you. Are you a retard?
Q: Does the Yggdrasil sound like a ladder DAC, or delta-sigma DAC, or a combination of the best qualities of both?
A: Fuck you. Does REAL life sound like a ladder DAC or delta-sigma. Give me a fucking break.
Q: I want a relaxo sound with imposed fluidity and warmth, like the Metrum or TDA15xx based NOS DACs.
A: Then go get a fucking Metrum or POS TDA15xx based DAC.
Q: Does the Yggy sound natural?
A: Fuck you. Do you ask yourself if REAL life sounds "natural"?
Q: Can I copy and paste this post into a HF thread?
A: Yeah, sure.
Q: I'm afraid of the bite of trumpets, the blare of horns, crunch of guitars, smack of snares, crash of cymbals...
A: Get another DAC. Might want to consider an expensive PCM1704 based one. Wadia or wait... Resolution Audio come to mind.
Q: How long does it need to be warmed up? I heard about the long warm up times.
A: Just leave it on. All the time. Sucking juice. I've done that with every DAC I have owned. True audiophiles need to make sacrifices. But to answer your question: 3 days minimum, 1 week for optimal performance.
Q: I find this warm-up phenomenon rather incredulous or either Schiit engineers must be incompetent.
A: Go buy an ODAC.
Q: I prefer NOS because the marketing spiel from the NOS DAC manufacturer says that NOS does not muck up the signal. Is the Yggy an NOS DAC?
A: Are you a fucking retard? Do you know what a brick-wall filter does to the original signal on 44.1kHz NOS?
Q: How good is the Yggdrasil's USB Gen 3 implementation?
A: Finally, a good question. I found the built-in USB Gen 3 to be cleaner and blacker sounding than the AES and SPDIF outputs from the Off Ramp 5. My OR5 does not have the turboclock or OTL upgrades.
Q: Does Wyrd improve the sound?A: Fuck off. Do you think people who drive Bugatti Veyrons or Lexus LFAs bother with aftermarket intakes for their cars?
a prendre avec du recul c'est des ricains...
http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,2047.110.html
un petit extrait :
The Yggy does that. It is the most REAL source I have ever heard. We are talking about v0.99 (essentially what the production model will be) which I was finally able to preview. The iteration Ravi heard was v0.96. This final version is a huge, HUGE step up - especially in terms of the intangibles.
Q: I'm worried about the Yggdrasil being too analytical because you guys said it was so resolving down to the the original source tapes. I'm afraid of resolution.
A: Fuck you. Do you think of resolution or analytical when you listen to the REAL thing?
Q: How's the tone? I like a warm sound and I don't like nasty treble.
A: Fuck you. Does the word REAL mean anything to you? REAL means the complete gamut of every kind of sound.
Q: I have sucky recordings. Will the Yggdrasil make things sounds worse?
A: Absolutely not. The Yggy will scrape whatever is left of the soul of the recording and rendering it in the most REAL way possible. In fact, bad recordings sound great, because you get a new take on them.
Q: How does it compare to X or Y DAC?
A: Do X or Y DAC fake you out into thinking the recording is REAL?
Q: What do you mean by it's real?
A: I'm listening to Taylor Swift's second record right now from the Yggdrasil. Ho Lee Fuk. Ho Lee Fuk. I keep saying to myself. I cannot believe it. I am at a concert. This is real. She and her band are in my living room. Yeah, Ho Lee Fuk... Ho Lee Fuk. I am going to explode.
Q: I don't believe you.
A: I don't give a shit. Go waste your money on an MSB DAC if you prefer American or Total DAC if you prefer European.
Q: How does this compare to the Audio-GD Model X or Y?
A: Fuck you. Are you a retard?
Q: Does the Yggdrasil sound like a ladder DAC, or delta-sigma DAC, or a combination of the best qualities of both?
A: Fuck you. Does REAL life sound like a ladder DAC or delta-sigma. Give me a fucking break.
Q: I want a relaxo sound with imposed fluidity and warmth, like the Metrum or TDA15xx based NOS DACs.
A: Then go get a fucking Metrum or POS TDA15xx based DAC.
Q: Does the Yggy sound natural?
A: Fuck you. Do you ask yourself if REAL life sounds "natural"?
Q: Can I copy and paste this post into a HF thread?
A: Yeah, sure.
Q: I'm afraid of the bite of trumpets, the blare of horns, crunch of guitars, smack of snares, crash of cymbals...
A: Get another DAC. Might want to consider an expensive PCM1704 based one. Wadia or wait... Resolution Audio come to mind.
Q: How long does it need to be warmed up? I heard about the long warm up times.
A: Just leave it on. All the time. Sucking juice. I've done that with every DAC I have owned. True audiophiles need to make sacrifices. But to answer your question: 3 days minimum, 1 week for optimal performance.
Q: I find this warm-up phenomenon rather incredulous or either Schiit engineers must be incompetent.
A: Go buy an ODAC.
Q: I prefer NOS because the marketing spiel from the NOS DAC manufacturer says that NOS does not muck up the signal. Is the Yggy an NOS DAC?
A: Are you a fucking retard? Do you know what a brick-wall filter does to the original signal on 44.1kHz NOS?
Q: How good is the Yggdrasil's USB Gen 3 implementation?
A: Finally, a good question. I found the built-in USB Gen 3 to be cleaner and blacker sounding than the AES and SPDIF outputs from the Off Ramp 5. My OR5 does not have the turboclock or OTL upgrades.
Q: Does Wyrd improve the sound?A: Fuck off. Do you think people who drive Bugatti Veyrons or Lexus LFAs bother with aftermarket intakes for their cars?
a prendre avec du recul c'est des ricains...
Player : Fiio X3
Casque : Ultrasone Sig Pro / Beyer T70p / Focal Spirit S
Hifi : Teac UD-H01 => HEGEL H200 => KELINAC 711MG
Casque : Ultrasone Sig Pro / Beyer T70p / Focal Spirit S
Hifi : Teac UD-H01 => HEGEL H200 => KELINAC 711MG
Ce truc aurait un réglage de volume, j'aurais déjà pété mon compte en banque.
Sédentaire : DAC3 hgx -> AHB2 -> HE-6 | Nomade : DX90 -> Penta / Andromeda