Cowon Plenue 2 P2

[Fabaaroan]

Mais quelle idée d avoir placé ses boutons de volumes à l opposé des prises jacks.
D ailleurs vous faites comment dans la poche ?

[Wayne Shelton]

Mais quelle idée d avoir placé ses boutons de volumes à l opposé des prises jacks.
D ailleurs vous faites comment dans la poche  ?

Je suis d'accord sur ce point, c'est un dap créé par des lapins crétins ! ou... facétieux

Pour ce qui me concerne, je ne le mets pas dans ma poche... Je suis très "tendance" : je fais comme les jeunes filles pré-pubères, en ville, avec leur imachin, je me promène avec dans la main (ouverte vers le ciel) bien en évidence ! Me manque plus que le grand sac fourre-tout au pli du coude, sur l'autre bras et j'aurai la panoplie complète !

[Kooka]

Vu sur H-F, comparaison P1/P2 avec les deux dans les mains :

I received the P2 yesterday and immediately compared it to the P1 with Campfire Andromeda. Good new and bad news; depends how you look at it.

Settings on Both:
1. DAC set on: Slow since P1 does not have Super Slow.
2. Volume matched at different levels from 90 to 116 with different music Pop/Rock/Reggae/Vocals etc.
3. EQ Off.
4. Single ended out used.
5. Set on earphone mode.
6. P1 owned for 2 years - well broken in over 400+ hours. P2 fresh out of the box.
7. P1 Update V 2.20 latest at this time of post.
8. P2 Update V 1.11 latest at this time of post.

The Good:
- The P2 is not a HUGE difference from the P1.
- P2's major difference is two things, 1. It's soundstage is definitely wider and the midrange is definitely more forward about +2 to +3db more than the P1.
- You can get the same effect with EQ from the P1 to make the midrange forward sounding like the P2.
- Highs and lows are very closely sounding, nothing major noticed.
- Both sound smooth. P2 kind of still sounds like Burr Brown but tad more refined. P2 is musical and never tiring to listen to just like the P1. P2 maybe less analog sounding, maybe tad more realistic.
- Both act and behave the same loading etc - not surprising and that is good and welcome. Only major difference is the horizontal album browsing is pretty sensitive. Nothing like the P1. P1 was just perfect. The P2 you tilt 20-30 degrees and you are in horizontal album view. Hopefully an update will desensitize that setting. You can turn this off but I like to use it as it shows the album's larger than in any other view and you can quickly scroll thought it to find music.
- I don't feel like anything major is missing in details.
- The multi wheel is super handy though. Can be used for quick volume adjustments or switching different EQ presets.
- The P2 does give and have more ways to control playing music with the multi wheel which is awesome.
- Maybe the pairing with the Andromeda was not ideal. If you have an IEM that likes below .6 Ohm the P2 on SE is perfect.
- Plays while charging and NO noise while charging. P1 was the same.
- The text is larger to read on the EQ settings. I strained to read them on the P1.
- If you don't like EQ the P2 does sound better mids and width/soundstage.
- The P2's AKM DAC plays better with the Cowon's DSP and EQ as it does not sound as processed at higher values/settings like the P1. ie: BBE on 10 on the P1 does expand the sound but add sibilance big time as does the MP Enhance.
- Additional touch settable multi button. Not the wheel but on the screen at the bottom- very handy.
- The best is that this was all done on SE connection. I will be getting a balanced cable and see if that is where the P2 can set itself apart from the P1 (hopefully).

The Bad (?):
- If you have mid forward IEM's or headphones the P2 maybe a touch too thick/forward sounding in the midrange? Some may like this some may not.
- The DAC filters do not seem to make a HUGE difference as one would think. It's extremely hard to tell the difference if any between Super Slow and Sharp on 24bit FLAC. Maybe a dog or on higher resolution DSD it maybe more noticeable, but didn't test as most of my audio are CD rips.
- It would of been nice if the DAC filters had a more pronounced effect at different bitrates you can select?
- The screen resolution on the P2 is the same as the P1.
- If you like EQ you can make the P1 sound like the P2 midrange wise, but will need the DSP effects to get the same soundstage/width and it may sound too artificial and or processed.
- Maybe the pairing with the Andromeda was not ideal as on SE as the .6 Ohm is too low? The Andromeda is known to like and prefer 1 Ohm. If you have an IEM that likes below .6 Ohm the P2 on SE is perfect.

I will report more once I get the balanced cable for my Andromeda. Should you buy the P2 if you have the P1? If you are new to Cowon the P2 is a great place to start, money no object. It's not a blow your socks off difference though. It's subtle and for many I would recommend better IEM's if you already have a P1, money better invested and more gained I feel. If you don't have a P1 then getting one that is cheaper now, is a bargain. If you like the latest and greatest and money is no issue and you like more controls and features, a larger sound stage and mid forward, the P2 is great. Will I keep it? Yes.

Hope that helps.

Ca aide à mieux cerner le P2...

[kyo9999]

Bon apparemment le P2 n'aime pas trop les andromeda...

[ZeDuK]

Élogieux en effet, le prochain DAP to have.

[Storm]

J'aimerai bien savoir ce qu'il pourra dire de cette sortie symétrique !?

[Vincent74]

Bonjour,

L'un d'entre vous aurait pu le tester en face du Sony wm1a?

Cdlt

Vincent

[Storm]

Sausalito (je balance)

C'est que j'aurai voulu savoir aussi

[Elawarai]

Il me semble que Fabdu69 l'a aussi brièvement eu entre ses mains mais pas en même temps que le Sony WM1A.

C'est un DAP que je comparerai bien au WM1Z et au LPG alors vous pouvez me l'offrir !

Mais je suis un peu sceptique sur ma conservation de celui-ci pour 2 raisons : les boutons (je n'utilise que très très peu mes DAP en sédentaire et donc un usage à travers les poches est indispensable) et la batterie (comme Storm, 9h00 c'est trop peu. Déjà je trouve que les 13h00 du LPG sont justes).

[ZeDuK]

Une fois qu'on a goûté à l'autonomie de chameau du Sony, le retour en arrière doit être difficile.

[Elawarai]

Une fois qu'on a goûté à l'autonomie de chameau du Sony, le retour en arrière doit être difficile.

Sans blague !!! 5 jours d'écoute au boulot.

[MrLocoLuciano]

Moi clairement à part le son je peux me passer de tout le reste très facilement sur le Sony.
Vivement une petite confrontation avec le P2 !

[Storm]

C'est clair l'autonomie et la prise jack à l'opposé

Après je dis pas mais bon..

[sausalito]

Sausalito (je balance)

C'est que j'aurai voulu savoir aussi

Je vais faire très court.Voici ce qui m'est apparu comme vraiment différent.
Le soundstage du cowon est plus étroit et n'offre pas cette profondeur accentuée par une sensation de plans bien individualisés. Par contre la scène sonore du P2 me parait plus réaliste,moins "M'as-tu-vu"
Là où le Sony tend à la résolution,le Cowon tend à la définition et est donc plus fluide (ce doit être le même type de différence que celui entre tia tzar/arthur ou tia tzar/fourte?)
Le son du Sony est nettement plus chaud avec des basses plus impactantes,le Cowon est plus droit
Et enfin la batterie du Sony est un plaisir

[kyo9999]

J'ai l'impression que tu décris le DX200 sauf que lui a un plus grand soundstage !